For those of you already familiar with VERTX, they make excellent cargo pants and are currently having an offer to receive a free CRKT knife with the purchase of two pants. For those of you who are not familiar with them, the women's pant has a slightly higher rise than 5.11, slightly lower than Propper, but it is shaped so you don't have any gap at the back so they can be worn without a belt if you choose, or when belted, you don't have all that extra material folded up back there that you may have with your current pants. The pockets are just right, not too big, not too small, the front pockets are easy to access with a gunbelt on and the cargo pockets are flat when empty. I give them two opposable thumbs up! Check for a brick and mortar dealer near you here.